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Well then, if you did not have Godwin when Marvel noted your information, then you cannot claim to be responsible for all the details on the crew members as listed at Marvel, can you? And, as I have stated all along, and which you seem to be ignoring so often, I have "correctly and properly" cited Marvel as the source of my information, so don't go around, on Internet sites, accusing me of plagiarism. Marvel does not indicate which individual crew members you had provided information for, and which was provided by other sources, except for one (and that was not from you). You started the ball rolling, Maurice, when you made these blatantly false accusations, without obviously knowing the facts.
I did not remove it in July as you indicate, but in June. I do not backdate my web sites, and I have never ever done so, so please do not make accusations, once again, without knowing the facts. You may have gone to one of my alternate web sites to have seen the previous information, as these are still on the net, but all updated versions are on the ozconnect site. Perhaps you have not realised that if your type in my name at a Search Engine, you will also get many, if not all, of these alternate, and now obsolete sites. These sites cannot now be accessed, and I have no power over the information on them anymore.
You keep making false accusations, misleading statements, and other similar errors, without checking the details on a web site, or at a message, only for me to keep pointing out your habit of missing out these glaring statements, etc., shown at the sites (e.g., the names of Yonge's parents, which are clearly shown at the LDS Family Search, and if you still have not found it, I can give you the navigation details to get you there).
If, as you state, you admit your errors, why are all the errors at Yonge still there, after, as you state 15 years of research? Why, after 15 years, are the errors at Param Brooks still there? You have not admitted these errors anywhere that I can see, and I think you don't intend to. You still seem to miss the point I state clearly at my sites, that amendments and updates will occur on a regular basis, as new information, or official documentation comes to hand. Yes I do make errors, but, as I am advised of these, and once documentary evidence is provided, I change it, instead of leaving it there for 5, 10, or 15 years. Will the newsletter ever put out an amendment notice, even if you change the details online, that there were errors in the original article on Yonge, so that the readers who are novices will at least know that there were some errors, and that these have been corrected, or will you continue to mislead them, and Jerry Williams? Does he, or any other member of the research group, for that matter, know of these numerous errors?
And with all of this, who is the one who is making excuses or sidetracking. When I mentioned the two incorrect dates at Yonge, you then stated your notes showed the actual dates, therefore absolving yourself of the error on the site. Is this not making excuses? Did you even bother to check the finished article, before they placed it online? Are you going to deny responsibility, as well, for all the other errors, that I have mentioned (besides the ones I have not)?
By the way, if some of my sources are in question, then it is up to the reader to follow this up further, with the sources noted and shown for their benefit, unlike at least one of your sites, which does not show any source whatsoever, thus leading the reader to figure out exactly where it came from. Or does it all come directly from you, errors and all? You yourself have constantly claimed to be directly responsible for all this information, not allowing for the fact that all information comes from somewhere else, such as newspaper articles, certificates from the registrar's office, the muster roll, allotment papers, etc.
So now it is all coming out, that you are not responsible for ALL the names in Marvel, but some. Am I correct in assuming this, from your message? Yet, all along, you have led me, and others to believe that you were responsible for ALL the notes on the crew. If you chose to deny this, then I can point out to several statements of yours:
Your letter to me of February 9, 2001, in which you state: "I began my research into the officers and crew of the ALABAMA some 12/13 years ago, mainly cause the ship had been covered so many times but never nothing of the actual crew." [This is, of course, incorrect, as a check of several volumes written by later writers, from the 1950's to the 1980's will testify. One cannot ignore this about previous research on individual crew members.] And later on, in the same letter you state: "...I did manage to keep all his letters [referring to Marvel] to me asking for my sources and in that way I will be given credit for my work on the crew of the ALABAMA."
Your letter to me of March 8, 2001 states, "Can I first say that William Marvel was not the source of the crewmen from the CSS ALABAMA, I was."
Your blatant accusations at the web site, dated December, 2001, which included the following: "....I have grown tired of so called U.S. Civil War researchers, pinching my 15 year study of tracing what became of the officers and crew of the CSS ALABAMA." Then you name several persons, and continue, "...if your going to use my work, at least give me credit for it."
Your message to one of your correspondents, who shall remain anonymous, for that persons courage in showing your statements, including the following: "My work involves tracing all the officers and crew of the CSS ALABAMA after the fight with the KEARSARGE,...." and later on in this same message, the following: "_____ {Name withheld for obvious reasons) and Terry Foenander are looking to ride on the back of Mars to make a name for themselves in the web world, and I won't be a party to their stupidity." [My notes: I do not have a special web page for this particular CSN sailor as I do for some others, nor am I concentrating my research efforts solely on him, yet you think I have a special affection for research on him. For once at least, get it right. I have also sent queries on other individual sailors to numerous persons and institutions, only because I cannot do the same with every single CSN sailor, currently.]
In your posting on this Message Board, dated June 2 of this year, when you state, "I know how Mr. Lee feels, having credit taken away from me for my work on the ALABAMA's crew." Then in another message dated June 3, you state, "You are too quick to give people credit...Spare some thought where they might have got it from. It might have come from me." [Well, at least in this last statement you seem to realise, when you include the word "might," that not everything at Marvel is yours, and rightfully so.]
From your posting of June 7: "To live in the shadow of Marvel has been extremely disappointing to me. He has moved on to other theings, while I have remained here with the crew who I love so much...This is the damage Marvel has done to me and my work. I have to go on bended knees to convince people all the time." I assume you indicate by this last statement, that you have to convince people that work on ALL the crew members listed in Marvel was your own work, errors and all?
As for your statement on my monitoring your queries about the crew, don't for a moment flatter yourself. You yourself indicate that when you place my name in a Search Engine, all these different web pages come up, including some that are not mine, but which mention my name. Don't you even realise that when I type in a name such as, as an example, "Henry Alcott," etc., on a Search Engine, those pages showing that name are going to come up, even those with your queries? And, when I do this search, I use all possible alternatives of a name, so those queries of yours are bound to come up, not particularly because I am stalking you and your messages, so once again, stop making assumptions, if you don't know the technicalities of the Internet and Search Engines. If you still are unaware of this, as an example, type in, at the Google Search Engine, the name of Clarence Randolph Yonge, and you will see both your site, as well as mine. So tell me, if I type in a name such as "H. Legris," or "Henry Legris," and I come up with twenty different web sites on the man from the ALABAMA, TUSCALOOSA and RAPPAHANNOCK, am I also treading on dangerous grounds in relation to each of the persons responsible for all these web sites? Stop trying to assume that I am monitoring your messages, or sites, if you don't know the facts of the matter. You yourself placed yourself in a dangerous position by placing blatantly false accusations against me, on record, on the Internet and in messages addressed to certain individuals. Why didn't you just forget my name altogether, after my last written letter to you, back in February or March, 2001? Instead you chose to continue your tirades, without any effort to ascertain the true nature of my sites, or its content.
Once again, I would advise you to type in, at any Search Engine, some of the names, as well as alternates for these names of the ALABAMA crew and see what comes up. You will find some with numerous web sites shown, and some with none at all, so don't for one minute presume to feel that I am monitoring your messages.
To be honest with you, I originally never had as much of an interest in the crew of the ALABAMA, as I did with all the other CSN sailors, but, by your constant accusations, etc., I was spurred into further research, and only in the last three or four months, after finding out about your comments made against me in several mediums, and then, after referring to your own web articles, finding so many errors there. I feel that I should now, at least, try and collect proper documentation on these personnel, to find out all factual data, if that is ever possible (which I know is not).
By the way, I don't "always quote Official Records," as you mention, but other sources, including personal ones. What do you think the source, named as "Forrest," at the Brooks entry refers to" You obviously have no idea, so I will enlighten you. It refers to the personal diary of Douglas French Forrest, paymaster of the CSS RAPPAHANNOCK, and this is clearly shown at the source notes, at the bottom of each page. Forrest served with Brooks, who was on the RAPPAHANNOCK for about four or five months, and mentions him several times in his diary. So do not, once again, and as you have done so many times before, make assumptions, without checking the facts. Numerous other entries at the CSN PERSONNEL web sites show other personal sources, for I have, over the years, purchased copies of many, many diaries, letters, affidavits, deck logs, etc.
Besides, I have to point out, if you have not already read the Brooks entry correctly, and it is obvious you have not, that he was given the award by Queen Isabel of Spain. Your own knowledge of your own monarchs seems to be limited, as I do know that there was no Queen Isabel of England.
Whether you want to now supply the Round Table with your source notes is irrelevant now, as too many people have seen the written information available at the site, and have taken it as completely factual. It seems strange to me, though, if anyone else had any interest in the matters relating to Yonge, that they were unable to spot the errors, including some that were so obviously glaring. Or maybe there were viewers who had seen these and knew of the errors, but were afraid to let you know about it, especially since you yourself are constantly "making excuses and side tracking"?
As for your final statement about naming names of persons you have made accusations against, the only name I want to give is my own. Instead of letting it pass, back in March 2001, after I refused to communicate further, you continued to make these accusations, starting (as far as I know, with the one in December, 2001), and continuing until quite recently, in June this year.

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